bush, bill clinton, and ross pero. >> i will ask questions for the first half under rules that permit. >> to get things going he wanted to question along the same line apples to apples for the candidates. this one time, kate was on a book tour so they stalked by phone not long before the start of the debate. >> lehrer: i called kate and ran through those three questions and there was dead silence on the phone. and i thought uh-oh. i really don't need this. i said, okay, what is it?" i was not terribly polite about it. and she said, "well, you have two apples and an owner." that was one of the hardest calls i ever made. i knew he was in his zone. he felt really good about his questions. he was really up. and that's a split-second decision. as he says in the book, he called me back to tell me by the time he got there that i'd been right and it was okay. in the meantime, i got amanda, our youngest daughter, and i said we've got to go for a walk. we've got to go for a walk. we got out, and içó said i've ruined the debate for your daddy. i've ruining everything. >> brown: in fact, jim wr